Analyzing Acapella's

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DocRogers
Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:34 AM

Hi there,

Is there any way to analyze acapella's?
Would be nice to have my acapella collection provided with the correct BPM's :-)

Many thanks in advance!

Doc Rogers

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Chad P (Mixed In Key)
Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:00 AM

Analyzing acapella's isn't any different than analyzing any other audio file. Have you been having some trouble with your acapellas? If so, please let us know what the problem is and which version of Mixed In Key you are using and on what operating system you are using it.

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DJ Blendmaster RIP
Thursday, February 07, 2013 4:33 PM

Hi, I'm analyzing rap acapellas and for example track Big L - MVP. Analized acapella - tempo 99.3, key 2A, and original song tempo 86.8 key 1A. Another one - Acapella - Dr. Dre ft. Snoop Dogg - The Next Episode, tempo 104,6, key None. Full song - tempo 95,3 key 2A.

It's a bit different, even not close to each other.

I'm using version 5.5 on Mac OS Mountain Lion

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Chad P (Mixed In Key)
Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:27 PM

On Thursday, February 07, 2013 4:31 PM DJ Blendmaster RIP wrote:

Hi, I'm analyzing rap acapellas and for example track Big L - MVP. Analized acapella - tempo 99.3, key 2A, and original song tempo 86.8 key 1A. Another one - Acapella - Dr. Dre ft. Snoop Dogg - The Next Episode, tempo 104,6, key None. Full song - tempo 95,3 key 2A.

It's a bit different, even not close to each other.

2A is actually very close to 1A, I don't know how they could be any closer. And a rap acapella without a key isn't the least bit surprising either, it's rapping, not singing. This has been discussed many times here already, if you want you can use the search feature to find previous discussions. An acapella contains different melodic data than a full release so it is not surprising at all that it comes out as a different key. You can use the key of the original song or the key of the acapella for mixing the acapella with other instrumentals.

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DJ Blendmaster RIP
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:45 AM

Well, I'am more about bpm comparison rather than key. The thing is that, if I wanna gather acapellas to start building mash-ups and I don't have original full song. How I'm gonna find out about its bpm?

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Thomas Grant
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:03 AM

It's a pretty fair question. I've been in the same position myself. I almost hate to give away my secret, but I want to help you out.

I acquire the original and find the 'correct' tempo. :O

On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:45 AM DJ Blendmaster RIP wrote:

Well, I'am more about bpm comparison rather than key. The thing is that, if I wanna gather acapellas to start building mash-ups and I don't have original full song. How I'm gonna find out about its bpm?

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DJ Blendmaster RIP
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:14 PM

I'm not trying to be funny. It's ok for you if you mix couple of traks and you are happy with that, but the reason I bought Mixed In Key was to analyze vast amount of tracks and save time while you will be checking each track by going to youtube, playing track and adjusting metronome at the same time...

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Thomas Grant
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:50 PM

Relax. I was trying to be funny to lighten things up. I understand your dilemma. Chad might be able to offer something more substantial than my humor. But, despite my cheap attempt to entertain, it was also a serious response.

I'm extremely critical of the work I do, and I am never happy with "just getting by". My solution currently is to do what I suggested, acquire the original track whenever possible.

On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:14 PM DJ Blendmaster RIP wrote:

I'm not trying to be funny. It's ok for you if you mix couple of traks and you are happy with that, but the reason I bought Mixed In Key was to analyze vast amount of tracks and save time while you will be checking each track by going to youtube, playing track and adjusting metronome at the same time...

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Chad P (Mixed In Key)
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:50 PM

Thomas is right. It's extremely difficult to discern the BPM of an acapella by itself, which is why often the BPM will be included in the filename. You almost have to have the original track, or find it online. Thankfully most sites that sell music to DJs will have the BPM of the song listed so it's actually quite easy to find. That is of course if MIK didn't find the correct tempo, it should be able to work with acapellas most of the time.

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