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Chad (MIK Mod)

Tip #1: Refreshing ID3 Tags

iTunes doesn't show filenames or the Key tag, so you'll have to use one of the common ID3 tag writing options in the Personalize/Preferences of MIK if you want to view your keys in iTunes. After you've analyzed your MP3 files, the ID3 tags must be refreshed before you can see the updated information. To do this, select all of the tracks in iTunes you had analyzed and right click on your selection. Choose Get info, then check one of the boxes that you don't plan on using and write something into the selected box, and then press OK. All of your key info will now show up in iTunes. DO NOT check the boxes next to comments, BPM, Artist, or any other tag that you are using. This will tell iTunes to replace any of those tags with what you write in the box. If you did this you have just erased the tags written by MIK and any other info in that tag, and you need to delete your MIK collections and start over.

(The following method doesn't seem to work for iTunes 10.0.1 on Windows) There is another method of updating I just heard about from one of our forum members (thanks Derek:) If you click on the File tab and then choose "Add to Library" and select your iTunes music folder, iTunes will rescan your entire collection.

Also, if you are using MIK for Mac 4.1 with the write key to comments option enabled, and iTunes 9 or later, you may need to delete any existing comments in iTunes prior to analyzing the files. This works similar to the refresh. Once you have selected your tracks, right click, choose Get info, and check the box next to the comments box. If you had already analyzed your files with MIK before doing this, they will need to be removed from MIK's collections and reanalyzed.

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Northern Monkey
Hello Mate... I have just tried a 'smart playlist' and its very useful Question for you... If i was to create a smart playlist by key only (comment field) and then added new tunes to my library after I have created the smart playlist... Would the new tunes automatically go into the smart playlist (they have gone through MIK)? Cheers Mr Monkey...
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Chad (MIK Mod)
If i was to create a smart playlist by key only (comment field) and then added new tunes to my library after I have created the smart playlist... Would the new tunes automatically go into the smart playlist (they have gone through MIK)? Yes, you can set your smart playlist to auto update. Be sure to check the "Live updating" box and you should be good to go. Cheers, Chad P
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Chad (MIK Mod)

Tip #2: Batch update WAV files


FYI - you can use this same technique with playlists in Traktor or Crates in Serato.

Most DJ software these days can read metadata from your iTunes music collection. Here's a great way to use this to your advantage when working with WAV files since they have such poorly supported metadata (although these days it's probably better to convert your WAV files to AIFF or Apple Lossless as we tag these files now too).

  1. Analyze your songs in MIK, then sort them by key in the MIK browser.

  2. Create a playlist for each key in iTunes.

  3. Select and drag the songs in each key from MIK to the appropriate iTunes playlist.

  4. Now select all of the tracks in an iTunes playlist, right click on it, and choose Get info. You can now write the key to the comments tag of all of the songs you had selected. If you use your comments for other info, you can use the grouping tag for your key data. In my example below I only have playlists for minor keys, but you can easily do the same thing if you have a lot of major tracks.

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Chad (MIK Mod)

Edit: While this can still solve problems for some troublesome files, most DJ software is much better at reading different versions of ID3 tags than when this was originally written. Converting tags as a prerequisite for the key to show in DJ software is for the most part a thing of the past.

Tip #3: ID3 Tags


Many problems with ID3 tags can be solved by stripping and converting the tags to version 2.3. The sooner you do this to your tracks, the less problems you will have. Here's how:

  1. Select all of your tracks in iTunes, right click on your selection, then choose convert ID3 tags.
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  2. To strip the old tags, choose None for the version. Be careful with this step as it may alter some fields, specifically the genre field. Also those who browse by album art should be warned that this step may remove album artwork. Like any operation that edits your files, make a backup and test it on a few files first. If it alters your files in a negative way you should skip this step and just convert straight to version 2.3 tags.
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  3. Now repeat the process, this time choosing version 2.3 (when this was first posted ID3v2.3 was considered the most compatible but ID3v2.4 is widely accepted now and can be used instead).
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Chad (MIK Mod)

Tip #4: Converting Files

This is a useful feature in iTunes, primarily for converting WAV files to AIFF or Apple Lossless, although when I first took these screenshots I was converting AAC to the more widely supported MP3.

Step 1. Open the Preferences, and click on import settings in the General tab:

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Step 2. Under Import Using choose the format of your choice. If you choose MP3 select Custom for the setting.

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Step 3. Now you can choose your quality settings. For the highest quality MP3 files, choose 320 kbps.

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You can now right click on files in iTunes and convert them to MP3, and your files won't be converted to AAC when you import them.

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Chad (MIK Mod)

Tip #5: Keeping Things Organized

iTunes has a neat feature that will organize your music into folders based first on artist name and then album. Edit: It may seem counterintuitive, but the "keep iTunes media folder organized" option actually does NOT have any effect on where or how your files are broken up into artist folders in the iTunes media folder. In actuality this feature can prevent files from being renamed if you are trying to use the file renaming feature of MIK. MIK users should be aware that adding the key to the artist name in iTunes will cause it to create new folders for each artist/key combination. While on this subject I would also like to mention iTunes' copying ability. If you have this option enabled, a copy of every tune is made when you add them to iTunes. I use this feature, and then delete the original file from my desktop so that I don't have two copies of every song. You can find these options in the Advanced tab of the preferences, along with the option to designate an external hard drive for storing your music. These are the recommended settings for use with Mixed In Key and Platinum Notes: Photobucket
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BSniekers
Great topic, and all the steps make perfect sense to me. I am considering the purchase of MIK 4 (Mac) but before I have this puppy rip through my iTunes collection, I was wondering if there is a demo I can testdrive the iTunes integration with. I use iTunes with both Serato and Traktor, and want to make sure it does what I expect it to do, workflow-wise. I have done enough re-tagging/restructuring/relocating of tracks in the past :-) What I am particularly interested in is if I can drag an iTunes playlist into MIK and have the magic happen that way, as opposed to having to browse to specific folders deep inside my iTunes Library (as described above, iTunes manages my file locations), each time I want a song analyzed.
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Hi BSniekers, Thank you for posting, I am delighted to help. Our team is focusing all our efforts on the full version. Unfortunately, we do not have a demo right now – we are creating many new features, and it is taking all of our development time. We hope that testimonials on our homepage and here on the community will convince you that Mixed In Key will be very useful for you. We look forward to you buying it. To answer your question about iTunes integration, you can easily drag playlists into Mixed In Key, that is how I use it myself. Cheers, Chad P
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clint flint
Hi - completely new user, and looking at this section is giving me some insight into managing tunes... I should've read this first (I am a novice when it comes to all of this). I have Traktor LE and some tracks (I think ACC encoded) Traktor wont read. I downloaded software to convert these files to MP3. Problem is, even though I have the latest upgrade MIK, when I analyse a track that has been converted to MP3, MIK seems to assign the wrong BPM to the track and I was wondering if it's because I am using the software that converts (I did notice that this was a problem in the previous version of MIK). Having said all that - I am going to have to look at this forum again and maybe re-organise a lot of music. What are your thoughts on this?
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Hi clint flint, Thanks for posting, I am happy to help. May I ask, which version of MIK are you using, and how off are the BPM readings? Thanks, Chad P
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Chad (MIK Mod)

Tip #6: Smart Playlists

Smart playlists are a great way to keep your tunes organized. You can quickly create playlists based on any parameter you like, so you could for example create a playlist that contains only Trance songs in the key of 8A that are longer than 5 minutes at a tempo of 135 that's been played less than 100 times and added since January of 2009 and was last played more than two weeks ago limited to one hour in length with most recent tracks getting priority...well, you get the idea. To create a smart playlist, simply click on the File menu and choose New Smart Playlist. Just to show you the power of smart playlists, here's what the playlist would look like from my example above: Photobucket
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device
Hello, I have tried to refresh my id tags several times following the directions offered word for word and it does do anything. What could be the problem?
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Hello, I have tried to refresh my id tags several times following the directions offered word for word and it does do anything. What could be the problem? 1. Check your preferences to ensure you have tag writing enabled. 2. Check to make sure your files are indeed MP3 format. Add the "Kind" column to the iTunes browser display to verify. 3. Check your workflow - add your files to Mixed In Key by dragging from the iTunes browser. 4. Check the permissions on the folder - especially if you've recently upgraded to OS X 10.5.7. The files may be read only. Will you please let me know if this helps? Best, Chad P
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Roger Young
Please include the option to write the key to the Grouping field, since iTunes can't read the key field and I use the comment field for other things.. Would this be possible?
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Hi Roger, This is possible, and I will add it to our feature requests list. Cheers, Chad P
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Free Magic
I have changed the tags to 2.3, using OSX 10.5.7, the latest version of MIK, the latest version of iTunes. After analyzing, writing the key to the comment AND the key file. Refreshing the tags in iTunes... nothing is working. Unable to get the tag to show up. The folder has read/write permissions. I have tried just about everything in the forum, such as re import. Any suggestions, it's driving me CRAZY.
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Are you dragging the files into MIK from the iTunes browser? That may help. If you continue to struggle with this, please feel free to contact me via MSN, Skype, or Gchat - I am listed under prankechad@gmail.com for all three.
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Free Magic
No just tried directly from a playlist, into MIK, analyzed, then when viewing in iTunes using "Get Info" no key written into the comment. I tried overwrite comment, write in front of the comment, and still no luck. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but it seems others aren't having this problem still... In my other post I wrote all the steps I've taken (all tags are 2.3) I'll add you on Gchat and see if we can't figure it out.
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Free Magic
to update everyone MIK got in touch with me and the problem is fixed and working with the latest version of iTunes, Serato 1.9, and MIK 4.1 I had a bad installation of MIK only required an uninstall, deleting the plist in library/preferences, and reinstall. Working great now, thanks for the quick support response!
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4four3
Hey there , I have just upgraded to windows 7 and cant seem to get the id3 tags to come up in itunes . I have tryed all your tips but no luck . Any suggestions ? Cheers
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Chad (MIK Mod)
1. Make sure you are working with MP3 files, and you have MIK set to write to the ID3 tags in the Personalize window. 2. Make sure you are analyzing the correct file by dragging straight from the iTunes browser. 3. If it still doesn't work try reinstalling the software. Failing these three solutions, you can contact me directly on MSN Messenger, I am listed under prankechad@gmail.com. Cheers, Chad P
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Bagz
Hey, I recently purchased both MIK and Platinum Notes. I ran all my tracks through PN first then through MIK. However i chose to change my tracks to WAV format and now Traktor scratch won't read the keys how can i fix this thanks .
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Checkout tip #2 above, you'll have to create playlists for each key, then sort your collection in MIK by key, and finally drag the songs of each key into the appropriate playlist. Then you can use iTunes to batch update the key for each playlist. Cheers, Chad P
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xolunt
Tip #3: ID3 Tags Many problems with ID3 tags can be solved by stripping and converting the tags to version 2.3. The sooner you do this to your tracks, the less problems you will have. Here's how: Im sorry for being Daft, but what does this do. I download from beatport, then run through both MIK & PN, then import into itunes, I then assign Comments that I see fit followed By assigning a genre. Is it after all this that I Convert my tagging to 2.3???
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Tip #3: ID3 Tags Many problems with ID3 tags can be solved by stripping and converting the tags to version 2.3. The sooner you do this to your tracks, the less problems you will have. Here's how: Im sorry for being Daft, but what does this do. ID3 tags come in many different flavors, the latest being 2.4. However, the most stable and widely supported tag version is 2.3. Converting your tags to this format in iTunes ensures that the tag data will be copied correctly by Mixed In Key. If you aren't having any problems with this, then this step isn't necessary. The best thing to do is always have a backup of your files, and if you do every have problems you can come back to the backup and try this to see if it helps.
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gomachols
Whats the word on AAC support? the #2 workaround still is a lot of work... create a play list and then drag them by hand? that cuts an impossible task into a really really really long and tedious one. not much of a workaround. i've got 10000 tracks in AAC
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Chad (MIK Mod)
AAC support should be added in the next update to MIK.
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gomachols
I'm seemingly unable to highlight the files in the MIK Brower of files I've analyzed and then drag them into a play list in Itunes... am i missing something?
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Chad (MIK Mod)
I'm seemingly unable to highlight the files in the MIK Brower of files I've analyzed and then drag them into a play list in Itunes... am i missing something? This is something that should just work. Did you move your files' location after analyzing them? What exactly is happening when you try to drag them into a playlist?
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MRMoor
Now this is USEFUL - As a longtime users of iTunes on the Mac I didn't know I could do this. (And with the idea that newer is better, why would I want to go back to an earlier standard of mp3 tags? Using MiK and having problems reading the titles afterwards I might!) Thanks for the whole collection of tips. ALL new MiK users should be directed to this page!!!
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Demon
Hi there I have just done the steeps above and the key does not show up in itunes for me, do i have to manually change them all ? i have changed all my ID3 tags to v2.4 and played with v2.3 that hasn't helped. basically done every thing below before I brought MIK v4 Its probably something small I'm missing running mac os 10.4.11 cheers D
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Chad (MIK Mod)
What file format are you working with, and what preferences do you have enabled in MIK?
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kudos
why is it when I click the "read tutorial" on my MIK application nothing happens? I just bought MIK and have to say the whole ID tag thing is confusing the hell out of me.. I have folled the steps above and when I drag analyzed tracks from MIK back into an Itunes playlist.. no Key Information shows..
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Hi, Thanks for posting, I am happy to help. What file format are you working with, and what preferences do you have enabled in MIK? If the tutorial isn't opening, you should probably reinstall the software, although it explains the theory of harmonic mixing more than it does how to use it with individual programs. Best, Chad P
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kudos
Hi Chad thanks... I reinstalled the software and things seem to working fine. The tutorial now opens as well.. which as u explained does not offer much assistance, but thats ok.. maybe this could be something for future releases?? The only problem I am experiencing now is some mp3 files Update Key info after I analyze them.. and some dont.. seems to be random.. they are definatly mp3 files yes. I am having to manually enter the Key Information into the Comments field into tracks which are not updating when I select them and click "get info" Another question I have is there some way that Itunes can automatically update the key info after analyzing the mp3's in MIK?? Is there a check box or something somewhere I need to select?
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Chad (MIK Mod)
The only problem I am experiencing now is some mp3 files Update Key info after I analyze them.. and some dont.. seems to be random.. they are definatly mp3 files yes. This could be caused by file permissions, so check your folders to make sure that they have read and write permissions enabled. Also, how are you adding your files to MIK? I always drag and drop straight from iTunes to ensure I'm not analyzing a copy. If you want to hit me up on MSN or Skype I'm listed under prankechad@gmail.com. Another question I have is there some way that Itunes can automatically update the key info after analyzing the mp3's in MIK?? Is there a check box or something somewhere I need to select? The best way is to select all of your tracks at one go and use the Get info trick. It sounds like you may have been doing each track individually, which is not necessary. The other good alternative if you are trying to minimize steps is to analyze your tracks before importing them to iTunes.
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kudos
hi chad, yes i am dragging tracks straight from iTunes into MIK. I am not analyzing one song at a time either. How do I check my file permissions to to see if they have 'read and write permissions enabled'? If this option was not selected why do some files update key info and some dont? I checked and made sure I am not analyzing copies. cheers
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Intermittent problems are hard to diagnose via email or the forum. It would be best if you could hit me up on Gmail chat, MSN, or Skype - I am listed under prankechad@gmail.com and will be available in the evenings over the next couple of days. Folder permissions can be checked by right clicking on a folder. If you're on a Mac choose get info and check sharing & permissions. If on Windows, check properties. Cheers, Chad P
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Boastie
Chad you use the comment field to add your key note as described. As some others use it for different comments. I have just sent an email to iTunes development about adding a key column to libraries. This would certainly help things considerably but has iTunes been asked this before by MiK?
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Chad (MIK Mod)
I think there was a petition going a few years back. I honestly don't see Apple adding this, as it's not even a field contained in their preferred AAC file format. There is always hope though :)
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FraidNot
I convert all my tunes from WAV files to Apple Lossless and obviously don't wish to convert them to MP3. Am I correct in saying that the reason the "write" function doesn't work is because I'm not using MP3s? Very disappointing if this is the case. How many serious DJs use MP3s? [Edit] Just re-read one of your earlier tips regarding AAC files etc. So good that there is a work around. Although still a bit of a hassle. Just for reference what's the issue with not being able to write to Apple's equivalent to ID3 tags? Assuming that there must be a technical reason for why these files aren't supported?
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Very disappointing if this is the case. How many serious DJs use MP3s? Actually most of them do. MP3 and WAV files are still the most commonly used. Just for reference what's the issue with not being able to write to Apple's equivalent to ID3 tags? Assuming that there must be a technical reason for why these files aren't supported? When our software was originally developed AAC files weren't nearly as common as they are now. We license the tag writing portion of our software, and the company we license from has since added AAC tag writing to their package. I would expect to see this feature added in the 5.0 upgrade.
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FraidNot
Thanks Chad. Looking forward to the update, happy that there is a work around for the time being.
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404
hi i have decided im just going to create my own playlists and dont want the id tags on the song names anymore...how can i delete them all without doing it manually?
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Chad (MIK Mod)
hi i have decided im just going to create my own playlists and dont want the id tags on the song names anymore...how can i delete them all without doing it manually? If you are on a Mac you can select the tracks in the browse collection window you want to remove the tags from and right click to select the clean ID3 tags option. This feature will be coming to the Windows version hopefully in 5.0. Cheers, Chad P
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404
thanks... i have now cleaned up my itunes mostly but i want the key tags to appear in the comments section now...us there anyway i can do this without re-analyzing all my tunes?
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404
ok this seems to have really screwed up my whole music collection...... i tried re writing the id3 tags, then i cleaned the id3 tags as u suggested to get rid of the key names... now the tunes will play fine in itunes but i cannot drag songs into playlists, add songs to my ipods or play any music in traktor, they simply wont transfer across.. what could be the problem here?
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Hi, Can you please contact me on Messenger, Skype, or Gchat? I am listed under prankechad@gmail.com for all of them. Thanks, Chad P
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p.mac
hi chad just started to use i tunes with mik and traktor.with regards to work flow is it best to take a d/l file from my download list(windows 7)into i tunes library(setting up the copy option)then into mik to analyze it.once this is done can i then delete the file from the original download page and can i back up the file from i tunes to an external hard drive. sorry if this sounds dumb but this all new to me and i dont want to lose any files.cheers paul
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Yep, that sounds about right Paul.
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p.mac
thanks chad
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LadY tV
I selected all of the analyzed tracks and when I hit right click (ctrl click), it deselects all tracks around the one the pointer is settled on. In the "right-ClicK" menu that pops up, "get song info" is no longer availably lit up for me to use this option. =oO If I select all the tracks again and choose "clean id3 tags" in the file menu, what will this do? Will it enable Serato to read the keys I have analyzed? Because Serato isn't recognizing that yet. I'm not so concerned with it in iTunes as long as Serato knows whats up. CheeRs.
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Chad (MIK Mod)
I selected all of the analyzed tracks and when I hit right click (ctrl click), it deselects all tracks around the one the pointer is settled on. In the "right-ClicK" menu that pops up, "get song info" is no longer availably lit up for me to use this option. =oO That's not supposed to happen... What version of iTunes and Mac OSX are you using? If I select all the tracks again and choose "clean id3 tags" in the file menu, what will this do? Will it enable Serato to read the keys I have analyzed? No, that option will remove all of MIK's tag data from your tracks. Because Serato isn't recognizing that yet. I'm not so concerned with it in iTunes as long as Serato knows whats up. Here are my step by step instructions for getting your MP3 files tagged for Serato: 1. Enable Mixed In Key to write your key to the key field. 2. Drag your MP3 files from Serato into MIK and analyze them. 3. Now open up Serato, and go into the file menu. Press the 'rescan id3 tags' button. You should now see your keys in the key field. Will you please let me know how this works for you? Cheers, Chad
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Emrik
hello very good insight for the smart playlist BUT how do you differentiate 1A from 11A ? of 2B from 12B ?...that's the main problem only for 1A 1B 2A 2B the rest is ok . thanks for your input. PS: by the way I think a another trick once this smart playlist is done is to build playlist made on these first one to gather connected camelot key, for instance : 1A area : gathering 1A, 12A, 2A, 1B so that you increase your selection choice while mixing. do you agree on that ?
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DJ Mixter-T
I am wondering if it is possible to run the same tracks through MIK two times. Let me explain why... I am using the key tag in the mp3, which works nicely with Serato (my main DJing software), but not with iTunes. I have a strong background in music, so knowing the key is enough for me to help me with song selection. I haven't been using the Camelot system. But what I am thinking is for itunes, and for an added krutch, I might want to start using the 'group' field in the tags, and hit that with the Camelot number. That way, I can access the key info in itunes, and it will help me visualize and get used to the cycle of fifths in the Camelot system... Is it possible to do this? Will my key tags get messed up if I run the same tunes through MIK a second time with preferences adjusted to write Camelot numbers in the 'group' field?
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Is it possible to do this? Will my key tags get messed up if I run the same tunes through MIK a second time with preferences adjusted to write Camelot numbers in the 'group' field? MIK does not write to the grouping field, but you could use the comments. If you reanalyze your files, the old key may be removed though.
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lockyp
Hi Chad, I have mixed in key 4, Traktor, Itunes, and purchase tracks from beatport.. Now im a bit spooked as prior to purchasing Traktor I analysed all my tracks (hundreds) in mixed in key and manually input the key, BPM etc into the file.. And upon installing Traktor i found out i couldn't play not one file. Luckilly the good folk at beatport enabled me to download all my tracks again for free, so i could play them on traktor..( there may have been another way around this-I don't know? ) Now what's the best way i can analyse files and input key info (or am i even able to?) So that my files will be playable in Traktor as i don't want to go through that drama again.. Regards-Paul.
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Hi Paul, Writing key data to files, either by hand or with MIK, should not affect their playability in Traktor. Here are my instructions for tagging your files in Traktor and iTunes: 1.  Make sure you have your preferences set to write the key into the key field and/or comments, artist, or song name.  Also ensure that you are working with MP3 or AAC files (common fields only - AAC files do not have a key field).  2.  Now you can scan your files with MIK.  I always drag and drop straight from the iTunes browser into MIK. 3.  Once analyzation is complete, you need to refresh the ID3 tags in iTunes.  Simply select and then right click on all of the tracks that you had analyzed, and choose Get info (if you are using iTunes 9.2 or later you will have to check one of the boxes that you normally don't use, like composer, to get all of the tracks to update).  Then press OK.  Your keys should appear. 4.  Now open up Traktor and right click on your collections folder.  Choose to run a consistency check on the collections and your keys should now appear in Traktor. If you need more help with this, please contact me on Skype or MSN, I am listed under prankechad@gmail.com. Cheers, Chad P
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Network Acid
I can confirm that the iTunes "Re-adding your library to get the comments to update" trick works great in OS X 10.6.4 using iTunes 9.2.1
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dj_radical
I discovered that you dont need to actually type anything into the fields when you want to refresh your tags in itunes. You can use the get info trick, check one of the boxes, (i check composer), then i type a space, then delete that space and click okay. iTunes then reprocesses all those tracks and refreshes the tags, you can do the same trick in any field
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Kryptonite
Chad, I have been having a very odd problem lately. When I get a large batch of tunes from producers, record pools, the first thing I typically do is run them through MIK. After I do that, I would use tip 1 above to refresh the data and see the updated keys/bpm. Unfortunately when I reformatted my computer, this stopped working on iTunes on both version 9 and then 10 I just upgraded to yesterday. The computer processes the files (you can see it running through track names), but then NOTHING happpens. They appear in iTunes as they did before. If I click on each individual track, the data shows up as it should, but I'm not interested in doing that for hundreds or even thousands of tracks. Any suggestions?
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Check the first tip again, I updated it for the latest versions of iTunes: Users of iTunes 9.2 will have to check one of the boxes and write something into the selected box to update the tags written by Mixed In Key. It is recommended to write something to a tag that you normally do not use - I write something to the composer tag since I normally do not have that visible. There is another method of updating I just heard about from one of our forum members (thanks Derek:) If you click on the File tab and then choose "Add to Library" and select your iTunes music folder, iTunes will rescan your entire collection. I'm not aware of any adverse reactions related to using this method, but for now consider it somewhat untested. An initial concern of mine was that it would reset the "Date added" field, but it didn't, so it looks pretty encouraging. Also, if you are using MIK for Mac 4.1 with the write key to comments option enabled, and the latest version of iTunes, you may need to delete any existing comments in iTunes prior to analyzing the files. This works similar to the refresh. Once you have selected your tracks, right click, choose Get info, and check the box next to the comments box.
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Kryptonite
Ahh, let me try that Chad. Thanks.
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DJ/MJ
I have just downloaded some new tracks from beatport. A few of the tags showed up in itunes. All have shown up in traktor. I have tried everything in this forum and still no luck. please help. my mac is 6 months old, brought mik 3 months ago, and i have the latest version of itunes
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Chad (MIK Mod)
If you have already tried EVERYTHING in this thread, please send one of the offending files to contact@mixedinkey.com and I'll take a look at it. Cheers, Chad P
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DJ/MJ
I restarted my compter. All is well now. Thanks
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Darren
Does this apply on Version 10.0.1.22?
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Chad (MIK Mod)
It should, I always run the latest version of iTunes and update the tips with any changes that I am aware of. If you find something that no longer applies to the current version of iTunes, please let us know so that it can be updated.
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Darren
I have run my tracks thru MIK and import them to Itunes how do I get the key to appear in the comment field as displayed in your screenshots Thanks Darren
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Please read the very first post in this thread.
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jdj
thanks for the tips, but this is a very painful process and is prone to many errors in selecting, copying, and entering information. I have 4400 tracks, mostly wavs, which I analyzed with MIK, and the MIK browser shows I have 4161 track, and after using batch update/playlists method described, I have 4119 tracks. This definitely implies that I have made one more errors in copying/selecting information to itunes. Is there no way to bring the key info for wavs and other tracks automatically? note - i'm using itunes v10.x
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Chad (MIK Mod)
This definitely implies that I have made one more errors in copying/selecting information to itunes. Is there no way to bring the key info for wavs and other tracks automatically? What you see posted in this thread is the best (only) way I know of working with WAV files and iTunes. Files aren't going to be randomly deleted from your computer, have you tried re-adding your iTunes music folder to iTunes via the File menu?
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Neil C-Word
Hi Chad. I've been having a problem with MIK and Itunes for mac. The Key tag shows up, but not the BPM. I've tried every different setting possible. I buy most of my tracks from Beatport. Generally I have it set that the key and bpm come up after the track title. The info is put into the file name, but the bpm is not put into the song title field in i-tunes... Any help would be greatly appreciated. xx Neil
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Chad (MIK Mod)
The Key tag shows up, but not the BPM. I've tried every different setting possible. Where is the key tag showing up, what exact preferences are you using in MIK, and what format are your audio files in? Generally I have it set that the key and bpm come up after the track title. This is not an option on the Mac version of MIK. The info is put into the file name, but the bpm is not put into the song title field in i-tunes... iTunes generally does not display filenames unless there are no ID3 tags present in the files, ie .wav format. Answer the questions above and I'll have a much better understanding of what is going on. Cheers, Chad P
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drusif
what is the purpose of the id tags? mines set to none atm, what does the 2.3 version offer. dont think mine is set to read id tags either?
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Chad (MIK Mod)
what is the purpose of the id tags? ID3 tags store metadata in MP3 audio files - artist, comments, genre - all of this info is stored in ID3 tags. mines set to none atm, what does the 2.3 version offer. Lots of stuff. dont think mine is set to read id tags either? Can you please elaborate on this question?
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Jesse Brede
I'm using MIK 4.1, Itunes 10.1, Serato 2.1.1, and Mac OS X 10.5.8. I've analyzed my collection and when I open Serato, the comment and key field do not show the key. If I load a some tracks (v2.3) in Serato into a deck, it seems to reanalyze the track and then the key and comment will then show up. For some tracks, when I do this, the key will show in the comment field, but not in the key field. I've done some tests and in some cases, if I reimport a track into Itunes, it deletes what I had in the comment field and reverts back to the original text. How can this be? Where was this old data stored? Is this a conflict in ID3 tag versions. SOOO confused by this. Finally, I've read the tips and I can't delete my comment fields (I use this for tags). I'm at a loss. Please advise on how I can consistently get the key to show up in the Key field in Serato. What do I need to do to tracks in Itunes? Do I need to delete my MIK collection and reanalyze? Do I need to have Serato reanalyze my songs? This seems to be a very complicated situation. Why are MP3 tags so complex and stubborn?
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Chad (MIK Mod)
I've analyzed my collection and when I open Serato, the comment and key field do not show the key. If I load a some tracks (v2.3) in Serato into a deck, it seems to reanalyze the track and then the key and comment will then show up. Yep, you can also reanalyze the files by dragging them onto the analyze button, or use the Rescan ID3 Tags button in the Files menu of Serato. For some tracks, when I do this, the key will show in the comment field, but not in the key field. Try removing these tracks from Mixed In Key's collections and reanalyzing them, making sure that they write to key tag option is enabled. Then refresh as per above in Serato. I've done some tests and in some cases, if I reimport a track into Itunes, it deletes what I had in the comment field and reverts back to the original text. How can this be? Where was this old data stored? Is this a conflict in ID3 tag versions. SOOO confused by this. Try turning off the "Keep iTunes media library organized" option as per the instructions in Tip #5. Finally, I've read the tips and I can't delete my comment fields (I use this for tags). I'm at a loss. The only reason you would need to do this is if you're having problems with comments showing in iTunes, which you haven't mentioned. If this is a problem for you, select the tracks you want to remove pre-existing comments from, right click, choose get info, check the box for comments only, make sure it is blank, then press OK. This seems to be a very complicated situation. Why are MP3 tags so complex and stubborn? You answered your own question - because they are complex and stubborn. One of our programmers once said that working with ID3 tags was akin to black magic. Try the above, and if you continue to have problems I'll be happy to help via Skype - you can find me listed under prankechad@gmail.com.
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copperthumb
Brilliant. I've been looking for a way to do this. For all the serato dj's out there you can take it one more loop to get the key to correctly display in the itch/scratch columns (yes I know everyone says that you can't have tags on .wav files but serato does just fine). Once you've got itunes to save all your keys into the comment section, open scrtach/itch and organize your file windows by comment, then highlight all in a selected key, double-click the key column (you might have to activate it, but it's there in the drop down menu) and enter the key. Should put everything in it's place without having to rename all your files. ~ct P.S. any dj out there who thinks 320kps is "good enough" is missing the point of what we're doing. I pay for my music, and I spin .wav only.
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Shred Thing
" . . . If you click on the File tab and then choose "Add to Library" and select your iTunes music folder, iTunes will rescan your entire collection . . . " (In reference to updating MIK tracks for iTunes 10.0.1 on a Windows.) The issue I have found with this, however, is that it will then add duplicates of all of my tracks, as opposed to JUST updating the tags. I'd like to update my 28000+ tracks without having to "re-add" my entire updated library and then have to go back and delete the "inferior" duplicate tracks. (haha) Can someone extend some assistance my way? Thanks -
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Really? I've not experienced that, but will have to check again. The other method for refreshing tags in iTunes is covered in the very first paragraph of the very first post in this thread: After you've analyzed your MP3 files, the ID3 tags must be refreshed before you can see the updated information. To do this, select all of the tracks in iTunes you had analyzed and right click on your selection. Choose Get info and then press OK. All of your key info will now show up in iTunes. Users of iTunes 9.2 and later will have to check one of the boxes and write something into the selected box to update the tags written by Mixed In Key. It is recommended to write something to a tag that you normally do not use - I write something to the composer tag since I normally do not have that visible. DO NOT check the boxes next to comments and/or BPM. This will tell iTunes to replace any of those tags with what you write in the box. If you did this you have just erased the tags written by MIK and you need to delete your MIK collections and start over.
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Mandito
Chad, how/when/why not . . . i really want to have all my files with BPM - Key - track info im using Mac. why cant MIK let me do that?
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Chad (MIK Mod)
It can, check the file renaming options. Keep in mind though that iTunes will only display filenames for files that DO NOT have a song name ID3 tag, like WAV files, or improperly tagged MP3s.
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Mandito
it doesnt seem to have that option... It has Key - BPM - Original File Name or Key - Original File Name but i cant see BPM - Key - Original File Name ? Can i update or change something? Thanks for your help Chad!
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Chad (MIK Mod)
My bad, the feature you are asking about is available in the Windows version, but not the Mac (apparently we really need to work on our inter-departmental communication). This should be addressed in the 5.0 upgrade. Cheers, Chad P
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Mandito
Great Chad, Im super happy to hear that. In version 5, I would love it if we could select BOTH the options of having the key at the end of the song name AND overwrite comments... i use the key in the track name in serato but also like to use it in the comments section when looking at a playlist/crate. I am a big supporter of MIK, having purchased a windows version then a mac version shortly after so I look forward to the changed in version 5 :)
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brawley
that doesnt seem to work.....
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Chad (MIK Mod)
that doesnt seem to work..... There are 87 posts in this thread, which one exactly were you referring to?
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willdunnett
chad, is there any news on m4a support?
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Nick Matthews
Hey Chad Im having some problems with my renaming and hope you can help. I recently converted to using iTunes to store and catagorize my collection. I used MIK in the past on my MP3's and was happy with the results that I got through the "Initial Key" data process. I was happy to continue with this as I do not want to see the key data in my iTunes but only in Traktor. However, when I try to convert my songs by selecting them from iTunes into MIK to add the this Initial Key data it somehow does not convert the files into a format that is seen later in Traktor even after creating a playlist in Traktor itself and adding those same files... Is there something I missed...? otherwise I will have to add it through Traktor manually, which is tedious, but this will stay with the files later on when I use the same collection in another version of the above software or machine..?
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Hi Nick, Please upload one of the files that has been analyzed but isn't showing it's key to speedyshare.com and send it to contact@mixedinkey.com so I can take a look at it. Cheers, Chad P
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Tbanga420
I just did this and now half of my files need to be located :(((((((((((((((
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Tbanga420
when I changed one field in itunes to update the tags to try to get traktor to display key (I used grouping since I use all the others including composers) a large amount of my files have become "dislocated" and itunes wants me to locate them on my drive. Please help this will be so painstakingly laborous to undo
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Chad (MIK Mod)
It sounds like you had file renaming enabled, we put a warning in the preferences for this very reason. If you're using a Mac you can select the tracks in MIK's browser collection window, right click on the selection, and choose to clean the filenames. Or, you can just go to the iTunes file menu and add your music folder back to the library although you may still lose playlist placement.
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Tbanga420
I'm on windows 7 64 bit, I have no "clean filename" option. You mean readd all the song to my library? And loose play count/date added? I was just follow suggestions on this page.
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Tbanga420
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Chad (MIK Mod)
You mean readd all the song to my library? And loose play count/date added? I was just follow suggestions on this page. I'm sorry to hear that you are having this problem, but the very first sentence in this whole thread says that iTunes doesn't show filenames, there is simply no reason to turn this feature on if you are using it. How many files did you analyze before realizing the problem? (You also might want to backup your iTunes library)
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Tbanga420
17425 songs :(. Is there no clean filename option for windows? why not? Also, I just had to consolidate my library a few weeks ago to get it onto my new computer. Do you know how I might be able to use some of my old library to patch it up somehow?
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Do you still have the same iTunes library on your old computer?
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Tbanga420
all except for the new stuff I added in the past few weeks
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Chad (MIK Mod)
I would sort your iTunes library on the date added field then, and drag the new tracks that aren't in the iTunes library on the older computer into a separate folder. Add the iTunes library from the older computer onto the new one again, and then add the newer files back. Once you've got your iTunes library sorted, remove any files from Mixed In Key's browse collection window, make sure file renaming is turned off, and try analyzing a few files. Make sure you have the options in the Personalize window configured to your liking and things are working correctly before analyzing your entire collection.
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Tbanga420
Word sounds like a plan Chad P. Thanks for the help, douchebag!
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duncanatt
Hi, I don't know whether anyone already suggested this, but if you select all the tunes you want their ID3 tag updated in iTunes, and Right Click -> Reset Plays, it seems to refresh the ID3 tag I wanted refreshed (in this case, the Comments tag, since i use this to write the key info into). Tell me how that works for you :) Duncan.
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GettrightPRO
this question is for Chad: I've tried everything to get the "comments" tag to show up after analyzing my entire library. about 2,000 files where the key tag didn't show up in the comments. i've written into other fields that i didnt' care about as suggested. and changed id3 tags to make sure they are uniform (i prefer 2.2) i played the files in itunes to see if the tag would show and nothing. In my itunes, i also have the software id3 editor installed in the scripts and can pull up extended id3 tags for each file. in the comments section under this particular window, i can see the tag but under the regular comments in itunes, it doesn't show. Also, i pull up the same files in Serato, and the tags show fine after i used the "rescan id3 tags" button option. i can't figure out why..any suggestions? off topic slightly, i tried to delete my mixed in key analyzed library so i can possibly just rerun the 2000 files but every time i try to delete, i get the rainbow circle and have to pull up the Force quit. it says mixed in "key stopped responding" every time. thanks for your help
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Scoop34
hey chad what happen? i've been waiting for you too fix my problem
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DJ Manoli
I just bought MIK5 and I like what the product is used for. However, I am having trouble getting the "comments" in my iTunes to show the key that the song is in. I have looked over it thoroughly and see that that wont analyze are some MPEG Audio Files and the majority of AIFF Audio Files with AAC Audio Files. I have done the ID3 method in iTunes a bunch of times and it still wont work. Even restarted. Any help would be great. I have just about done everything in this posting to get the songs to display the correct key but it seems to not be working. Thanks in advance for the help. I appreciate it a lot
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Hi, Thanks for writing, I am happy to help. Could you please do me a favor and send one of the files that you have analyzed but isn't showing it's key to contact@mixedinkey.com using speedyshare.com and I will take a look at it. Also, please include the link to this thread in the email so that I know what the file is in regards to. Cheers, Chad P
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DJ Manoli
Chad, I think I keep running into some issues over and over. I use Serato Scratch Live and every time I open it up, I make sure that all my songs in Serato are analyzed in Serato. Well since I did the whole process in the aforementioned, I had a ton of songs to re analyze in Serato. I did these thinking it would be updating the comments section but that was not the case. What happened was my entire library of songs in Serato were renamed. The artist remained the same but, the track title changed to a random number followed by the original track name (ex: 3-248 Rapper's Delight). In some cases, the artist name is gone. Is there something I did in iTunes with the ID3 tagging that caused this? If so, how can I fix this asap? Thanks for the help again.
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Thanks for sending over the file, that really helps. The file you sent has no ID3 tags at all, which would probably explain the problem you are now seeing in SSL. I am guessing that you stripped the ID3 tags in iTunes, but did not convert them back to ID3v2.3. Assuming the files are still in iTunes, all of the tag info should be stored in its library file, and if you follow the instructions in Tip #3 above to convert the ID3 tags to version 2.3 iTunes should repopulate the tags. After that is done, I would recommend removing any files from Mixed In Key's database. Read the instructions for using Mixed In Key with iTunes and Serato in the Personalize/Connect with DJ Software tab in Mixed In Key, and then reanalyze the files there. Make sure you drag and drop the files from iTunes and that the keys are showing there first for a few files before analyzing your entire collection. Cheers, Chad P
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Roodee
All of my music is in MPEG format. Could this be the reason none of the tips above aren't working? I'm unable to see the tags on Traktor and Also anywhere else i choose to put them. Excluding the comment column. I'm using a brand new Mac. Help! Been trying to figure it out all day. Thanks!
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Chad (MIK Mod)
MP3 is the most easily tagged format to be working with, so that shouldn't be an issue. Please read the instructions in the Personalize/Connect with DJ Software tab in Mixed In Key. Then, double check your settings in the Update Tags tab. Once you have verified that your tag settings are correct, remove the files from MIK's browser, drag them in to the Analyze panel from iTunes, and reanalyze them. Follow the instructions for refreshing the tags in iTunes and Traktor and it should work. Cheers, Chad P
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Roodee
I have tried everything on your previous message. But after checking consistency of the analyzed songs on traktor. The Key column still doesn't show.
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Chad (MIK Mod)
Could you please do me a favor and send one of the files that you have analyzed but isn't showing it's key to contact@mixedinkey.com using speedyshare.com and I will take a look at it. Also, please include the link to this thread in the email so that I know what the file is in regards to. Cheers, Chad P
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freckle.rv

Hi Chad,

I got 2 problems.

  1. When I analyze my songs I just drag them from iTunes library to "Mixed in Key 5", (before doing that convert al my tunes to ID3 Tags v.2.4 with iTunes clicking witht he right button to "convert ID3 tags" to ensure all the files are the same)... but the problem after analyzing all my tunes some of them does not change the "comment" field in iTunes to the one supposed to be" Key - BPM - comment) it just keep the same even if i already checked them with MIK so then all i have to do is change them myself manually!! :( Is there any way to fix this?? why some of the tunes does not change the comment??

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  1. Noticed when loading some tracks into a deck in Traktor 2 (v 2.5.0) after loading the comment changes to the previous comment the song had and deletes the key and bpm. how do I stop Traktor deleting the comment or change it to the previous comment the song had??

Cheers

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Chad (MIK Mod)

These both sound like ID3 tag compatibility issues. Try stripping the ID3 tags before converting them as instructed in Tip #3 above. Once you have done so, remove the files from MIK's collections and reanalyze them and the key tags should work as expected. Will you please let us know if that helps?

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freckle.rv

Hi Chad,

I converted already all my songs to ID3 2.3 but still some of them not updating the comment....noticed that i have to delete from my "mixed in key %" collection those songs where not changed and reanalyze then in the second time it changes. Is there anyway to don't have to analyze some of the songs twice or 3 times??

However Traktor still changing the "comment" of the songs i load into a deck.... anyway to avoid traktor modifying the ID3 tags??

Cheers

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stevenD

Mp3 files can have both id3v1 and id3v2 tags at the same time. I think the problem is that if the file has an id3v2 tag iTunes just ignores the id3v1 tag leaving it as is no matter what you update or convert in iTunes. Traktor however reads both id3v1 and id3v2 and here is where it gets messy. I have reported a bug concerning iTunes to Apple (bug id:11432980)

One solution that have worked out for me is to remove the id3v1 tag completely using another application. I use ID3 Editor for mac (http://www.pa-software.com/id3editor/).

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NO MERCY

hey
i have itunes version 10.3.6 and mik 5 ive been trying for days how to transfer my files from mik to itunes or traktor pro but i CANNOT figure it out... pleez help

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Chad (MIK Mod)

Could you please do me a favor and upload one of the MP3 files that you have analyzed but isn't showing it's key to speedyshare.com, send the download link to contact@mixedinkey.com and I will take a look at it. Also, please include the link to this thread in the email so that I know what the file is in regards to.

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nevvkid

hi chad. i was looking through this post but seriously why has nobody writen a good workflow to work with itunes and mixed in key? please add a tutorial to your site. currently i am calculating 9000 files - my whole itunes collection - but i only need maybe 300 of them calculated. so what is the workflow you suggest?
i have a smart playlist with all files for djing. should i export them to a extra folder - calculate them and stick with them as a copy? or is there a good way to have a tight integration. could i add a playlist to mixed in key? i didn't find a way and i don't want do add each file extra to mixed in key.

thx.

best regards. johannes

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Chad (MIK Mod)

All you have to do is select and drag the files from iTunes that you want to analyze into MIK's Analyze panel. Once the files have been analyzed follow the instructions in the Personalize/Connect with DJ Software tab to refresh the tags in your other software.

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beccah

Hey Chad,

Sorry if I'm repeating a question. But I'm struggling to wrap my had around why this is happening. When I drag and drop files from itunes into MIK 5 I am losing the artist name, even though it appears in itunes.
In addition to this when i try to refresh the track details in itunes using your advice on altering the preferences the key info doesn't come up. I am using aiff files so not sure if that alters anything.

Thanks.

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Chad (MIK Mod)

It is because you are using AIFF files. Keep an eye out for the 5.5 upgrade in the next couple of weeks, we'll be adding full AIFF tagging support.

Cheers,
Chad P

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beccah

Thanks Chad.

Will the processes mentioned above be the same for aiff files? And will the update be automatically prompted when i open the software? If not how can I be notified?

Thanks again.

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Chad (MIK Mod)

Yep, refreshing tags for AIFF files will work exactly the same as MP3 files. The update will be prompted from within the software once it is released.

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RoseBud

On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 12:34 PM Chad P (Mixed In Key) wrote:

It is because you are using AIFF files. Keep an eye out for the 5.5 upgrade in the next couple of weeks, we'll be adding full AIFF tagging support.

Cheers,
Chad P

Hi, I just purchases MIK5 last week. Should I hold off trying to put the keys into Itunes until you've released 5.5?

Thanks
RoseBud

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Chad (MIK Mod)

Only if you are using AIFF files. If you are using MP3 or M4A you can get started now.

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nicholas.bohme

So I just threw all my tracks into itunes. then threw them into MIK to analyze. I did the step where you check an unused box in the info and some Keys came out in the comments but alot of them didnt come through. I deleted the entire collection and now re-adding the whole collection back. Looks like it's all showing correctly now but I could be wrong (still importing the collection). Is this an issue of the ID3 tags ? and what is the solution for next time instead of re-importing files ?

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Chad (MIK Mod)

You can find a troubleshooting guide for this type of issue here.

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antspants

Now with the new energy key, where I have 5A-6 in the comments. How do I do batches without doing dozens of them?
Suggestions like asking users convert to a lower quality format, when your products are aimed at people who want to get the best quality sound and mixes, is just absurd.

When you said ITunes & Traktor integration, I thought I would see an option that said "Automatically update iTunes Library?".
Why not just add it as an option to directly up date the iTunes library? Then programs like Traktor & Serato can import these already.
Surely this is just an case of putting a few of your guys in a room for a couple of days, until they work it out.

Lots of people won't want to have iTunes as the centre of their music universe, but it a good place to start.
Then future updates could possibly update other libraries as well.

PS. Love your products

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Chad (MIK Mod)

On Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:56 AM antspants wrote:

Now with the new energy key, where I have 5A-6 in the comments. How do I do batches without doing dozens of them?

The instructions for batch updating can be found in the Personalize/Connect with DJ Software tab in MIK.

Suggestions like asking users convert to a lower quality format, when your products are aimed at people who want to get the best quality sound and mixes, is just absurd.

These posts were written several years ago (thanks for the reminder, they were due for an update). Since then we have added tagging for AIFF, FLAC, and ALAC.

Why not just add it as an option to directly up date the iTunes library?

We already write the key, BPM, and Energy Level information to music files metadata, you just need to tell your music library software to read the tags again, which as I mentioned, instructions can be found for in the Personalize/Update tags tab.

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mr. matt

I find it rather frustrating that I have to come to a blog to figure out how to get itunes to recognize the analysis that mik has done, not only that but, your description is vague.Choose Get info, then check one of the boxes that you don't plan on using and write something into the selected box write anything? What exactly is this doing? The thing I wrote just showed up in every track without the key info. Huh? Nothing happened. I did it for the comments box because I read on your website or one of these blogs somewhere that the analysis would be listed in the comments box. Anyway, I thought that I erased the analysis like this post said, yet when I go to get info on each individual track the key analysis comes up no problem. WTF? Why don't you just write clearly defined directions to how and why to do it in the software tutorial manual. Why can't mik just bounce the info back into iTunes? Why is it letting me do one track at a time? Do I have to read through this whole blog like the bible to get answers to this seemingly stupid question?

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RoseBud

I think that we would all benefit from a YouTube Walk through. Is there any chance MIK will put one of these together?

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Chad (MIK Mod)

I'm sorry to hear that you didn't find the instructions in our app sufficient. They've been working well for the two years that MIK 5 has been out but as your post has shown, there is always room for improvement.

On Friday, March 08, 2013 6:03 AM mr. matt wrote:

I find it rather frustrating that I have to come to a blog to figure out how to get itunes to recognize the analysis that mik has done,

The same instructions are in the Personalize/Connect with DJ Software tab in MIK.

not only that but, your description is vague.Choose Get info, then check one of the boxes that you don't plan on using and write something into the selected box write anything?

Yep, anything.

What exactly is this doing?

Music library software doesn't read the ID3 tags in your music files every time an app is started because you would have to wait for it to read all of the files every time you open the app. Instead they read the tags when the files are added to the library, then store that info in their library file. So, we have to tell the music library software to read the tags again. Most DJ apps have a simple button to do this, but iTunes is a consumer app so we need to use a work around. When iTunes writes a tag it reads the existing tags, so by writing something to a field we are not using we are forcing it to read all of the tags.

The thing I wrote just showed up in every track without the key info.

Sounds like you wrote something to the tag that you want to hold the key data, not a field you don't plan on using as instructed.

At this point I'm going to suggest that you press the "retag files" button in the Personalize/Update Tags tab in Mixed In Key. This will retag any of the files that you had inadvertently overwritten. Once you've done so, follow the instructions to retag the files. I made a brief video to help.

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NAW-T-BOY

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Mikey Microphone

I'm curious about two things in this tip. First, does the first step actually delete the ID3 tag, leaving the metadata temporarily only in iTunes' library? Was that step included to prevent a situation where the file had multiple ID3 tags, which could confuse the software?

Second, does moving to a newer ID3 version have any bearing on whether the ID3 tag can store a field indicating the Label that released the track? I presume I still won't be able to edit this data via iTunes but I'm curious if the newer tag will have any bearing on whether I could edit it in Traktor, or something.

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Chad (MIK Mod)

On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 5:32 PM Mikey Microphone wrote:

First, does the first step actually delete the ID3 tag, leaving the metadata temporarily only in iTunes' library?

Yes, that is correct.

Was that step included to prevent a situation where the file had multiple ID3 tags, which could confuse the software?

Exactly.

Second, does moving to a newer ID3 version have any bearing on whether the ID3 tag can store a field indicating the Label that released the track?

If anything it would make it better, newer versions of ID3 tag have more fields, not less.

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evan.paster

I am having a similar problem. I've scanned 23,000 tracks with mixed in key successfully. Mixed In Key cannot ID a key for about 1,000. This is understandable. However, what is incredibly frustrating is that I have 1600 tracks where Mixed In Key has ID'd a track, but is refusing to write the key into the comments section of the ID3 tag. I have double checked this by refreshing the track in ITUNES and by importing the file in Traktor. In both cases, there is no key.

To be clear, I've used the same settings for over 20,000 files imported from iTunes to Mixed in Key. I have Mixed in Key set up to Update Common Tags, Write only the Key, Overwrite Comments, Update 'custom initial key', Update 'tempo' tag.

An example file is an MPEG file, ID TAG with v2.4 (i tried the trick of deleting the tag to no tag and then re-tagging it as v2.4)

any advice when Mixed in Key is stating that it has ID'd the key but refuses to write the into the song's tag?

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Chad (MIK Mod)

You can find a troubleshooting guide for this type of issue here.

Cheers,
Chad P
Mixed In Key

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dariodelima777

Hey Chad , i was wondering would it not be simpler to have mixed in key put the key tag along with the energy tag in grouping,, that way it would be so much easier to see the results in I tunes such as 10A - 8 in grouping where it now only has the energy levels, that way not needing to put it in the comments section, this way it would not be so confusing in traktor to have they key in the key text section and in the comments. this way would surely be more useful in I Tunes as it is in traktor, perhaps an option to tag key land energy levels in grouping seems like a rather easy step to the iTunes problem so many are having as iTunes reads the energy level when you select write energy level in front of grouping...just a thought, possibly for a future update..

Thanks

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Chad (MIK Mod)

I designed a UI that allowed any tags to be placed in any column that we support, but management decided not to pursue it.

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Alex Caste

On Friday, November 13, 2009 12:02 AM Chad P (Mixed In Key) wrote:

Tip #3: ID3 Tags

Many problems with ID3 tags can be solved by stripping and converting the tags to version 2.3. The sooner you do this to your tracks, the less problems you will have. Here's how:
Chad,

In your experience:

Do you know if following your instructions for converting tags (convert to none then convert to 2.3) will make it so I need to run the tracks through MIK again or will the information already on the track be saved and updated into the new format?

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Chad (MIK Mod)

If you have the key in the comments tag that should be preserved, or pretty much any other field I believe. Doing this isn't the same as deleting all of your metadata, it just gets rid of a lot of junk that could be in your tags and lets iTunes re-write the tags in a format that it likes. We've done a lot to make this kind of thing not as common over the years but ID3 tagging standards are pretty loose so a lot of websites and software do some strange things with metadata.

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joemarletta

I cant get the tagging correct in itunes, some key tags on tracks are added and others are not, its really screwing me up?!!!

HELP

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Chad (MIK Mod)

Check the stickies in the MIK thread please.

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bardy

You can use DuplicateFilesDeleter for keeping your pc clean from duplicates. :)

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SnipeHunter

On Monday, March 16, 2009 11:27 AM BSniekers wrote:

Great topic, and all the steps make perfect sense to me. I am considering the purchase of MIK 4 (Mac) but before I have this puppy rip through my iTunes collection, I was wondering if there is a demo I can testdrive the iTunes integration with.
I use iTunes with both Serato and Traktor, and want to make sure it does what I expect it to do, workflow-wise. I have done enough re-tagging/restructuring/relocating of tracks in the past :-)

What I am particularly interested in is if I can drag an iTunes playlist into MIK and have the magic happen that way, as opposed to having to browse to specific folders deep inside my iTunes Library (as described above, iTunes manages my file locations), each time I want a song analyzed.

Export your library and run it in a new user.

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AndyPecs

Hi admin,

I had just bought mixed in key 6.1.2, and after writing the "Key and Energy" into the comments column, not all songs displayed the information. Please assist! Thank you

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Chad (MIK Mod)

http://community.mixedinkey.com/Topics/10515/sticky-update-tags-in-your-dj-software-troubleshooting-guide

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werner.resseler

Hi man,

i'm using mac os 10.10 and just bought mixed in key.
I analysed a playlist in itunes, but i can't seem to find the changes somewhere. In mixed in key it showes the key, but in itunes in only 3/50 songs it shoes the key and the tempo after the track title. I updated the id3 tags as you explained but doesn't do anything.
What should i do?

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werner.resseler

already figured it out!

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djartj

Ok...this is Huge!
So if I create a Smart-playlist by "key only" list using iTunes. And as I add new tunes to the iTunes library, the software will place music into the SMART-PLAY LIST!!!!!! so 7A's, 8B's, and so on will populate by key... ?

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djartj

On Saturday, March 08, 2014 11:11 AM dariodelima777 wrote:

Hey Chad , i was wondering would it not be simpler to have mixed in key put the key tag along with the energy tag in grouping,, that way it would be so much easier to see the results in I tunes such as 10A - 8 in grouping where it now only has the energy levels, that way not needing to put it in the comments section, this way it would not be so confusing in traktor to have they key in the key text section and in the comments. this way would surely be more useful in I Tunes as it is in traktor, perhaps an option to tag key land energy levels in grouping seems like a rather easy step to the iTunes problem so many are having as iTunes reads the energy level when you select write energy level in front of grouping...just a thought, possibly for a future update..

Thanks

So tagging the energy levels would be a better methodology... do you have screen-shots of this?

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Chad (MIK Mod)

On Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:20 PM djartj wrote:

Ok...this is Huge!
So if I create a Smart-playlist by "key only" list using iTunes. And as I add new tunes to the iTunes library, the software will place music into the SMART-PLAY LIST!!!!!! so 7A's, 8B's, and so on will populate by key... ?

That's right, iTunes does it all for you. I shudder when I hear from Djs manually sorting their songs into folders by key.

So tagging the energy levels would be a better methodology... do you have screen-shots of this?

That's the beauty of Smart Playlists, you can set them up on as many parameters as you want. You can put the Key in comments, energy level in Grouping, and the BPM in the Tempo column then set up Smart Playlists that group your tracks together based on all of those. You can have Smart Playlists set up by key, energy level, tempo, or any combination of the three. I recommend only using two variables for Smart Playlists though because you can always sort those playlists on the third value. For example, make your playlists based on BPM and Energy Level ranges and then sort those playlists based on key. Try different combinations and see what works best for you.

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Frankie

On Saturday, August 13, 2011 6:55 AM duncanatt wrote:

Hi,

I don't know whether anyone already suggested this, but if you select all the tunes you want their ID3 tag updated in iTunes, and Right Click -> Reset Plays, it seems to refresh the ID3 tag I wanted refreshed (in this case, the Comments tag, since i use this to write the key info into).

Tell me how that works for you :)

Duncan.

< Right Click -> Reset Plays, it seems to refresh the ID3 tag >

Thanks Duncan! This works perfectly refreshing all my ID3 tags after analysing in MIK. Much better than the 'edit an empty field' method - so long as you don't use 'plays' or 'skips' for your smart playlists.

Thanks for sharing!

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tomsophy

Hello Chap,
but i stil cannot update the ID3 tags of the comment.
If i do the "select all->info->writa under composer smthg" it does not work!

pls help! :)

Thank you in advance!
tomsophy

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Chad (MIK Mod)

On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 5:03 PM Chad P (Mixed In Key) wrote:

http://community.mixedinkey.com/Topics/10515/sticky-update-tags-in-your-dj-software-troubleshooting-guide

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DJ Hesh

Hello. I m using the latest version of iTunes and what i find is most songs are getting updated and some aren't . tried converting them to all different id3 tag version but still not working ?

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Chad (MIK Mod)

http://community.mixedinkey.com/Topics/14938/sticky-how-to-update-tags-in-your-dj-software-troubleshooting-guide

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fmarr

Hi there,

I am trying to simply drag music from iTunes into MIK, and the green + sign appears to the 13 songs i want to format, but nothing whatsoever happens. I have done this plenty of times before, but seems to now only let me find songs one by one and add them into MIK for formatting.

Can someone assist?

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Chad (MIK Mod)

Can you use the add files button and then make a selection of multiple tracks? How about dragging the files into MIK from Finder instead of iTunes?

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fmarr

I can do that yes, but all of the files are in separate folders in iTunes main folder, as they ar organised by artist name. Far easier if they are in a playlist in iTunes then simply dragged over like they used to be.

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Chad (MIK Mod)

Please go into the Applications/Utilities folder and launch the Console app immediately after attempting to drag files into Mixed In Key. In the Console app, go to File -> Save a copy as... and save the All Messages log. Send it to us (contact@mixedinkey.com) as an attachment and hopefully we will know more about what could be causing this problem for you.

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st albans DJ

Chad I done exactly what you said NOW my tractor files are not loading and when I drag the files to the player I can see tags infant of my songs hence not loading. I deleted my iTunes and put a back up in place yet all the tags are on that library even though I took from a PC Back Up. I need to remove all the tags and clean things up can you please tell me how to do this and on what settings I MUST USE.

Please Help as I am a Pro DJ this really has messed me up.

Thanks Chris

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m.lomas1985

HI

I bought MIK today and have spent around 4 hours trying to figure how to get it all set up. I have all my music in Itunes 12, and have the preferences set up without letting itunes sort it. I have analysed in MIK around 800 tracks, all bought from various sources. All of them have been analysed in MIK with BPM and key data, but when i refresh in Itunes only about 1/3 of them loaded up with the information i wanted. I have checked the files and the majority of them are MPEG files. I have followed all suggested tips elsewhere on this forum but have so far had no luck.

I have restarted my computer twice, have checked for file permissions (there are no restrictions on any of the folders or files ) and have trying re importing all my library. I am lost as to what else i can do as i am not getting anywhere. I have even re-installed itunes. Even more strange is maybe one song from an album will show up but the others wont, so as far as consistency goes , its not really happening. Any suggestions would be great. It will be difficult to send my whole library as there is a lot of tracks involved here.

Cheers

Mat

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vanymony

On Saturday, February 14, 2009 12:30 PM Chad (MIK Mod) wrote:

Tip #2: Batch update WAV files


FYI - you can use this same technique with playlists in Traktor or Crates in Serato.

Most DJ software these days can read metadata from your iTunes music collection. Here's a great way to use this to your advantage when working with WAV files since they have such poorly supported metadata (although these days it's probably better to convert your WAV files to AIFF or Apple Lossless as we tag these files now too).

  1. Analyze your songs in MIK, then sort them by key in the MIK browser.

  2. Create a playlist for each key in iTunes.

  3. Select and drag the songs in each key from MIK to the appropriate iTunes playlist.

  4. Now select all of the tracks in an iTunes playlist, right click on it, and choose Get info. You can now write the key to the comments tag of all of the songs you had selected. If you use your comments for other info, you can use the grouping tag for your key data. In my example below I only have playlists for minor keys, but you can easily do the same thing if you have a lot of major tracks.

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